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PPS M870 Pump Action Gas Shotgun (2 Plastic Shells Included)

PPS M870 Pump Action Gas Shotgun (2 Plastic Shells Included)
[PPSM870]

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$300.00
4 of 5 Stars!
Received it well packaged and in good order. The gun has a nice weight to it and the finish is good. A lot of people don't know that you should immediately disassemble the trigger group from the gun when receiving it and fully lube it as well as the guide rails for the pump and the inside of the breach as well as the bolt itself. When I took apart my gun upon receiving it the trigger group was bone dry as expected. Once everything was lubed up I was ready to test it. I brought it to my local field and was testing it out and had a bit of the common issue where as you pump and load another shell into the breach as you slam it closed it sometimes fired. I am not sure if I managed to fix it but by once again re-lubbing everything internally that problem seemed to stop. I was able to shoot it all afternoon without it happening again. No jams either or trouble ejecting the shells. I think this gun is just very thirsty for lube and without it you get problems. I also found that the purple metal shells would fire on their own or be very dangerous to load and use. However, I realized I was not properly loading them. Watch the airsoft-mike video on this shotgun and he demonstrates how to properly load them. You have to press really hard on the push-pin on the back of the shell with the supplied plastic shell-stand thing. If you fill the shell without doing that or without pressing it all the way down it seems like you're leaving the shell half-cocked and vibration from loading it or slaming the breach closed can be enough for it to go-off. Once I started firmly pressing the pin on the back before loading them they performed excellently and the issue stopped (for now and hopefully won't come back). A lot of reviews say the plastic shells are useless and to get more metal ones. I disagree with that for this reason: The metal shells when fired expend all their gas at once. While this definitely gives a way more powerful shot FPS-wise the plastic shells can be re-loaded with BBS and fired again. Yesterday at the range I tested it and was able to reload the shell 6 full times. For the 6th shot I stood 50m away and asked my friend to shoot me in the back to see if it still hurt and it definitely did making the 6th shot still useful for CQB. That means you can be on the field with a small bb-loader and reload your shells in-game without worrying about re-gasing them. That, to me, makes the plastic shells viable and worth having. I also confirmed that if you put 1 bb into the metal shells the FPS is over 400, it's very powerful. All in all I am happy with my purchase. I knew what I was getting into when I bought it knowing it might not be the best for field-gaming and that it has problems but I am prepared to purchase replacement/upgrade parts if I need to...it's way cheaper to buy this one and upgrade it with steel parts than to buy an APS CAM.
by Alexandre Radburn Date Added: Sunday 28 June, 2020
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1 of 5 Stars!
Right now the gun is either a display replica that can't load shells and fire or it goes to the dump. The internal is completely **** up now, no help saving it whatsoever. DO NOT BUY THIS GUN, that shell will ejecting fun will last for maybe two days, after that it's a done deal. You have been warned!!!
by joseph chang Date Added: Thursday 18 February, 2016
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1 of 5 Stars!
Metal shells jam 90% of the time, plastic ones are a bit better, plus metal shells will discharge when you fill the gas in, its like (filling the gas,,,,, and BOOM), i am like WTF, good thing i didnt put any BB inside. plastic ones are better, plus metal ones dont just leak gas when its overcharged, it just goes off in your hand, I am not officialy afraid of using PPS shells.
by joseph chang Date Added: Friday 23 October, 2015
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1 of 5 Stars!
So it has very serious issue when loading shells, like so bad that when it jams i have to disassemble the front barrel in order to remove the jammed shell. so its like when you cock and load the gun the spring doesnt stop that the next shell pop into the chamber and guess what, you have one in the chamber ready to fire and the next one already pops in and the result is there is nothing you can do even cock the gun really hard is useless. this happens when the spring goes further where it should be that is not being stopped by the part where it is supposed to be even you do absolutely nothing! like literally it just pushes into the room and its jammed even without any shells inside the mag. I am sorry for being unclear cause i have no idea what that part of the gun is called but it is the part where you load the shells. Yes that part, the spring goes into that room, and its not supposed to be there the first place. Sounds bizzare but if the gun doesnt have this then i wouldnt even bother write a review about it. Hope this helps. By the way, it happens after one week out of the box of medium use of the gun.
by joseph chang Date Added: Friday 23 October, 2015
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1 of 5 Stars!
Follow up: Between the two guns, I got a semi working one. The trigger set on the second gun is showing a similar problem as the 1st one. The trigger will not release the hammer until you let go and fires when it resets. Just hope that the release will not break like the 1st gun, maybe RA Tech will make a GOOD working trigger set for this gun that will last more then a week. A shell catcher that works is the Coldwell AR15 rail mount catcher. You will need a picatinny rail on the gun to mount and to use. Sorry but this get 1 outa 5 score.
by David Lee Date Added: Friday 18 September, 2015
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1 of 5 Stars!
Well I got the second gun. It's worst then the 1st one. It started to jam when trying to load a shell right from the start. The metal shells are worst, they jam about over 75% of the time. After multiple clearings, the loading now just jams 100% now. The feed is screwed up. Airsoftdepot sent along some upgrade parts with the 2nd gun I purchased that was suppose to help, but the parts don't fit due to the threading was wrong for the upgrade part. Tested on both guns to check that it was the part and not the individual guns and both can share parts but not the upgrade one. Maybe using parts from both guns, I can eventually get one working one. Don't get this if you don't want to spend a lot of time and money trying to make this work. Pure frustration. BTW if you decide to get this gun, don't ever get the metal shells, stick with the plastic ones.
by David Lee Date Added: Tuesday 08 September, 2015
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